Nicolas Trefeil


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Mouthpiece museum


Meyer Bros. New York  mouthpieces.


 History and models



1936 -1971.




Frank J. and Edward.G Meyer had varied experience in the field of mouthpieces since 1916.


* April 28, 1931. They patented, together with Otto Link,  a design about hard rubber thoot rest


   inlay for metal mouthpieces.



* The Meyer Bros Mouthpiece Company was founded in 1936. 


* 1971: JJ Babbitt company purcahsed the Meyer Bros mouthpiece company from EdJ Meyer.


* The 1 of July 1972 the firm was incorporated to J.J Babbitt.

            

Meyer Bros.


         Metal Serie I   


            (1936 -1948) 

 


7701-87th St L.I NY New York




  First serie of Meyer Bros sax mouthpieces, 


     * First serie was made in silver alloyed

         with other semi precious metals.


     * Later made in gold plated brass.


     * Facings From n° 2 to n° 6


     * 3 facings lenghts: S (Short), M (Medium),   

           (Long ).  


     * 1 chamber type only


          (large typical design of the 30's)



   Available for:


     * Soprano, alto, C melody, tenor, baritone

         sax, 


     * Eb, Bb, bass clarinet


     * Trumpet , cornet, trombone, tuba, alto, 

         french horn.

 

   

Below: Alto model.

Below: 

  Tip openings for Meyer Bros serie I.   Alto and tenor sax ( metal, hard rubber).

Alto Sax tip
Tip opening 
2
 1,27 mm - 0,50 "
 3
 1,52mm - 0,60 "
 4
 1,78 mm - 0,70 "
 5
 2,03 mm - 0,80 "
 6
 2,16 mm - 0,85 "
Tenor sax tip
 Tip opening
2
  1,40 mm - 0,55 "
 3
  1,65 mm - 0,65 "
 4
  1,90 mm - 0,75 "
  5
  2,16 mm - 0,85 "
  6
  2,29 mm - 0,90 "



At left and below: Meyer Bros trumpet mouthpiece.




April 1937 > "True Flex" facings



  * New "True Flex" facing table available on all model, together with Meyer plain facings.


                                                               Below: Bb Clarinet Meyer Bros Serie I, "True Flex " facing.

                                     Below: Meyer Bros grenadilla Bb clarinet barrel.

1938 > Hard Rubber 

   mouthpieces serie I


* New: from 1938 saxophones and clarinet
    mouthpieces available also in hard rubber.

* Tip range : from 2 to 6.

* Same facings as metal models.

* "Meyer" written lengthwise on body.

* Short shank with rounded edge.

* "New York " stamped on shank, top side.

* "Meyer Bros" stamped on shank, table side.

* Available with "True Flex" or plain facings.

 

    Below: Alto Chamber and "True Flex" facing

Below: Alto and tenor sax models.

Below: first serie of "True flex" facing. 

 Cut out 10,9 mm width.

Below: second serie of " True Flex " facing.

  Cut out 6,20 mm width.

See also special serie I model mouthpieces:


  * David gornston / Meyer Bros Serie I


  * Sam Marcus / Meyer Bros serie I

November 1938




* The firm, formerly located at Glendale, L. I., N. Y., opened offices, sales and show room at 


    167 West 48th Street, New York.



* The factory remain at 7701 - 87th St Long Island, New York.



1 January 1940 "Crystalyte" mouthpieces




 * Introducing " Crystalyte" mouthpiece line for clarinet and saxophone.


 * Same design, chamber, facing and tip openings as hard rubber serie I


 * No longer mouthpieces for brass instruments




Left and right:

tenor n° 3 Crystalyte mouthpiece.

April 1948.


* The firm moves to Box 145, QueensVillage, New York.


 

1948 > October 1951



    Meyer Bros Serie II 




   * New line of sax mouthpieces in hard 

       rubber.


   * Soprano, alto, tenor, baritone sax,

       Bb and bass clarinet            


   * New tip opening range, from 2 to 10. 


   * 3 distinct facing lenghts :

         Short / Medium/ Long.


   * New 3 type of chamber

        (small, medium, large) stamped

        on top side of shank. 


   * New 3 distinct body lenght for each  

       chambers.


   * "New York" stamped on the shank,

        table side.


   * Short shank with rounded edges at end of 

        shank like serie I.


   * Old flat facing curves from Serie I.


   * Available also with "True Flex" facing  

       table. Cut out 6,20 mm width.


   * No longer metal mouthpieces.


   * No longer "Crystalyte" mouthpieces.


   * No longer mouthpieces for C melody, bass          sax or Eb clarinet. 

 
 

See also Special Serie II model mouthpieces:


 * Sam Marcus / Meyer Bros serie II


   * Marty Oscard / Meyer Bros serie II

 


October 1951 > November 1954



  Meyer Bros Serie III



    * New line of hard rubber mouthpieces


    * Soprano, alto, tenor, baritone sax,

         Bb and bass clarinet.


    * Tip opening range from 2 to 10


    * 3 distinct facing lenghts.


    * New 3 distinct chamber design again.

        stamped on top side of shank.

        "small", "Medium", "Large".


    * 3 distinct body lenght for each chambers


    * "New York" Stamped on shank, table 

         side.


    * New Longer shank design with acute     

        angle at end of shank.


    * New modern more curved facings. 


    * No more "True Flex" facing.


    * Some rare late Serie III have new

        shank stampings of the Serie IV. 



 
 

Below: 3 Serie III alto mouthpieces.

Each chamber with is own individual lenght to insure proper tuning. 

 
 

Below: Serie II with rounded edge short shank and Serie III with acute edge long shank.

Below: 


official tip openings for Serie II,  III , IV and V 

Soprano sax
 Tip Opening
2
.
 3
.
 4
 1,22mm - 0,48 "
 5
 1,30 mm - 0,51 "
 6
 1,37 mm - 0,54 "
 7
 1,45 mm - 0,57 "
 8
 1,50 mm - 0,59 "
 9
 1,55 mm - 0,61 '
 10
 1,60 mm - 0,63 "
Alto sax tip
 Tip opening
  2
  1,42 mm - 0,56 "
  3
  1,55 mm - 0,61 "
  4
  1,68 mm - 0,66 "
  5
  1,80 mm - 0,71 "
  6
  1,93 mm - 0,76 "
  7
  2,06 mm - 0,81 "
  8
  2,18 mm - 0,86 "
  9
  2,34 mm - 0,92 "
  10
  2,49 mm - 0,98 "
Tenor Sax
 Tip opening
2
 1,55 mm - 0,61 "
 3
 1,68 mm - 0,66 "
 4
 1,80 mm - 0,71 "
 5
 1,93 mm - 0,76 "
 6
 2,06 mm - 0,81 " 
 7
 2,18 mm - 0,86 "
 8
 2,34 mm - 0,92 "
 9
 2,49 mm - 0,98 "
 10
 2,64 mm - 104"
Baritone sax tip
 Tip Opening
2
 1,93 mm - 0,76 "
 3
 2,06 mm - 0,81 "
 4
 2,18 mm - 0,86 "
 5
 2,34 mm - 0,92 "
 6
 2,49 mm - 0,98 "
 7
 2,64 mm - 104 "
 8
 2,79 mm - 110 "
 9
 2,97 mm - 117 "
 10
 3,15 mm - 124 "
 
 
B flat  Clarinet tip
 tip opening
2
 .
 3
 .
 4
 1,14 mm  -  0,45 "
 5
  1,27 mm - 0,50 " 
 6
  1,40 mm - 0,55 "
 7
  1,52 mm - 0,60 "
 8
  1,65 mm - 0,65 "
 9
  1,73 mm - 0,68 "
 10
 1,80 mm -  0,71 "
 
.
 

November 1954 > 1960



    Meyer Bros Serie IV




 * The firm moves to:

     P.O 367 Northport, New York


 * New line of saxophone and clarinet

     mouthpieces.


 * Soprano, alto, tenor, baritone sax,

    Bb and bass clarinet.

   


 * Tip opening range from 2 to 10


 * New chamber design for each 3 type   

    of chambers.



 * New: only one body lenght for each chamber.


 * The type of chamber is stamped on the shank,        table side as follow:

     " small chamber", "medium chamber", "large          chamber".


 * Slightly longer shank than Serie III.


 * "New York" stamped on top side of shank.


 * Same 3 distinct facings lenghts as Serie III.

 

 * Same modern curved facings as Serie III.    

 

                                

                             

                              

        Below:

Bass clarinet medium chamber model.


 


    Above: the alto medium chamber model.




                            Below: 

Bb clarinet medium chamber model.



At left and below:

   typical box of  serie III and IV

   (alto model).


 * 101 mm long. 


 * "Times New Roman" Font.


     (original tag price was only  16,00 $.... )




Below: 

 Alternative box ( very old 30 's design) used for Serie I, II, III and early IV.

 

1960 > 1970


   Meyer New York usa


        Serie 5  Phase A


 


     * New line of mouthpiece with new 

         external design  (thinner body). 


     * Retain same 3 chambers design 

        and rounded inner side walls of Meyer  

        Bros Serie IV


     * Shorter window lenght than Serie IV.


     * Facings available from N°1 to N°12


     * tip opening of alto n° 5 is often slightly

         more opened than the alto serie IV.


     * Retain 3 type of facing lenghts:


         Stamped by a letter ( S, M, L) in the 

         diamond shapped logo "meyer lapped 

         facing"


        ( Short - Medium - Long )

       

     * Same modern curved facings as serie IV


     * "New York Usa" stamped on shank,

          top side.


      


Below: Alto medium chamber model.



Below: 

   the alto New York Usa Phase A box.

    ( same as serie IV)


    * 101 mm long.


    * "Times New Roman"font.





Below: 

Bb clarinet medium chamber model

 

1970 > 1971 


  Meyer New York usa 


        Serie 5 phase B 


 


    * Inner side walls are less rounded than

       phase A. 


   * Facings are made with an horizontal

       milling machine.


   *  The facing finish work is not as good as             the phase A or earlier Bros mpc's.


   * The bottom tip of diamond shaped

       logo "Meyer lapped facing " which is 

       stamped on table does not touch anymore

       the end of table (shank side).


   * New chamber and thinner external body 

       for baritone sax.


 
 

Below: Alto Phase A and B


Below:

Alto New York Usa Phase B box


* Stamped "Meyer Bros"


101 mm long


* "Arial" font


                                         

Above:

 Meyer New York USA serie 5 baritone mouthpiece, phase A and later thinner body B phase.


1971 Meyer Bros. sold to J.J Babbitt Co


  

  * J.J babbitt company  puchased the Meyer Bros mouthpiece company  from Ed J. Meyer 


  * 1 July 1972 the firm was incorporated to J.J.Babbitt.


  * Box still stamped "Meyer Bros." until 1987.


  * Facings available now from N°4 to N°10.



  * Same blank as Serie V phase B.


  * "Made in usa "stamped on shank.


  * Still good hard rubber.


  * Facings are made with an horizontal milling machine


  * Facing  finish work is absolutely not like earlier model, New York usa phase A.


  * Box lenght 101 mm or 114 mm, like tenor box (as pictured)


  * New line of metal mouthpiecefor alto and tenor sax at least since 1987

            


Below: 

Meyer Early Babbitt of the mid 80's